[Ccil-user] tech-priesthood@lists.ccil.org

[Chuck Peters]

On 3 May 2002, Miles Nordin wrote:

>        mailman> ***** subscribe Your subscription request has been
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>
> If the Freenet still needs help with technical stuff, you're welcome
> to get in touch with me when you get this problem worked out.
>
> I appreciate everyone's contributions to the project.  It's amazing to
> me that such a project can last as long as CCIL has in a remote
> commuter's territory with no sidewalks.  Obviously some people must
> have been truly dedicated to keep it going.

On the subscription page of the tech-core list it says "This is a closed
list, which means your subscription will be held for approval. You will be
notified of the administrator's decision by email."

I am not sure why you felt it was more appropriate to send your comments
to the list rather than to send any technical qualifications or comments
to tech-core-admin@lists.ccil.org before subscribing.

Your subject of tech-priesthood@lists.ccil.org might start a flame war,
but its not going to help with technical issues.

The tech-core list is for the administrators.  It is not publicly listed
with the other lists at http://lists.ccil.org.  It was not meant to be an
open list where anyone expressing interest in helping CCIL with technical
issues can subscribe.  The people on the list have considerable technical
skills and can be trusted with a level of access that could destroy the
systems.

While not all our services meet a level of stability I am satisfied with,
the mail services I setup and maintain are as reliable or better than any
place.  At a messaging ASP (Application Service Provider) I used to work
for I did some tests on the reliability of some production mail systems
and added CCIL's as another data point.  Some of the other mail services
were selling for as much as $15 per user per month and CCIL's was
consistently the most reliable.  I have done more technical work for CCIL
than anyone and it takes dedication, know how, experience and management
to achieve very reliable mail services.  Part of that management is not
letting everyone join the tech-core list and not let anyone offering to
help administrative access such that they could destroy the systems.

We will start another list called CCIL-Tech that is open to discussion of
technical issues and mentoring those who want to learn more.  The
subscription page is at http://lists.ccil.org/mailman/listinfo/ccil-tech.


Chuck